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French Color Chart
by Miguel Angel E.S. - Wednesday, 6 August 2008, 05:39 AM
 
Hi everybody, I'm from Mexico City. I use the English Color Chart since 1996 on (I was a 22 year-old boy big grin), and even I also "build" a Spanish Color Chart based on Mexican Spanish pronunciation (getting an impressive achievement in foreign learners) but now, I want to learn the sounds of French Color Chart, I know there are some sounds the English C.C. does not contain. Is there a way anybody in this forum can help me on learn this French C.C.?... When I learned the English C.C. sounds, I could make a relation between the phonetic symbols and the sounds (a teacher recorded the sounds of each rectangle). Now, is there a way to do the same for the French C.C.? Why do I want to learn it?... Because it'll be great to me to learn them, the more sounds I can be able to reproduce... the best I'll be teaching. I love to learn, and learning is a way to keep the brain active... I think so big grin.

Thanks for reading the topic and helping me (if it's possible)...
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Re: French Color Chart
by Administrateur du site - Wednesday, 6 August 2008, 02:41 PM
 
Hello Miguel,

It's great to have you with us! Do you know you're the first person to find and join this Discussion Forum on their own. You must be pretty computer literate.

You ask a very interesting question. Are you looking for something like this Dakota/Lacota Sound-Color Exercise on the Native Language Literacy site? We don't have anything like that online yet for French.

We intend to put our Lecture Infuse CD-rom online but it has to be completely redone as it wasn't created for the Internet.

I don't know if you know the Infused Reading software that Dr Gattegno developed for teaching people to read in their native language (it also exists for Spanish, English and some other languages but only runs on very old Macs).

Une Education Pour Demain redid the French version a few years ago and you could buy it from us. I think it would be just right for you as you already have the pedagogy. The CD-rom itself isn't online but you can see and read enough to understand how it works. It won't help you learn the structures of French, just how to pronounce it. As you're a Spanish speaker, you'll be able to guess a lot of the meaning of the text. If you need some help, just ask here.

Cheers,
Glenys
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Re: French Color Chart
by Miguel Angel E.S. - Wednesday, 6 August 2008, 05:35 PM
 
Thanks for the welcome message Glenys, to me it's great chance to learn more about Languages as a Second or even Third learning language. I work as a teacher with a group of 12 sts. per group.

What you mention about the Sound- C.C. Exercise of Dakota / Lacota is a great idea. I checked and even I started to learn and reproduce the sounds, giving me a better "listening" recognition on English and Dakota sounds.

I'm planning to post my Spanish Color Chart with sounds in the same way like the Dakota here in the forum for all the people who wants to have an idea of my art work on the Spanish Color Chart (I used almost the same technique for the English Color Chart) and receive comments from all the masters in the forum (remember I'm a begginer in this, so you are the masters wink). I teach the C.C. using the Power Point and OpenOffice Presentation in the classes. I let my students to work only in classroom with the Chart for practicing and developing a better "sound-reproduction".

By the way, I found this forum... looking for a way to learn the French C.C. sounds... and well, "nobody knows what the tide might bring today" big grin. I'll be posting my teaching experiences too, for sharing and for contributing in the "teaching world" wink.

Thanks and... I'll be back (Terminator saying big grin).
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Re: French Color Chart
by Roslyn Young - Wednesday, 6 August 2008, 07:04 PM
 
Hi Miguel,

Welcome to the discussion group.

I'd be very interested to see your sound/colour charts for Spanish and for English. Could you scan them and post them here?

Attached is a pdf of the French sound/colour chart, hot off the press. It was printed only a few days ago, so you'll be the very first person in the world to use it as a student ! The quality isn't very good, but you should manage. Rotate it counter clockwise.

In the vowel section...
I think you'll recognize the top line. You have all these sounds in English too. The only problem you might have is with the second and third vowels from the left. The second is more closed, the third more open.

The second line has the same sounds as the top line, except that you have to purse your lips very strongly which modifies the sound of course.

The third line has the same yellow as in English, (schwa).

The fourth has the nasals, and they are directly below the sound they come from. Light blue nasalized gives petrol blue, Salmon gives light salmon, white gives pale pink and dark brown gives darker brown.

At the far right, you have two rectangles which are combinations of /w/ and a vowel.

In the consonant section...

The semi-vowels are just under the white line, and also under the vowels they come from. They are paler versions of the vowel.

The rest of the consonant are organized by pairs or by triplets. If you can't work them out, I'll tell you.

Have fun! Let me know if you get stuck somewhere. I can give you more clues...

Yours,

Roslyn


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Re: French Color Chart
by Miguel Angel E.S. - Thursday, 7 August 2008, 09:17 PM
 

Hi Roslyn... and thanks for the F.C.C. it's an honor to be the first student to practice in this C.C. Surely I'll post my C.C.'s (both Spanish and English), even though, I'll post them in a new topic maybe called: "New Spanish and English C.C.'s" so everybody take a look of this new design.

I hope you like the totally new digitalized C.C., so if you are interested to used it, let me know so I can send you the proper file ready for press. So maybe today I will post them.

Thanks for the honor, and hope my Color Charts like the forum and why not.. use them, it will be great to know I did something is helping people to learn.